these dudes

are my favorite rock peeps right now. wish i had a pic of them in their badass gray suits. they should be in every band. got that hold steady?

whites only

all this rumbling about the beatles "white album" has got us to thinking. would it be better as a single album? (well, that's an easy one. yes) where do you side? GIHYB sees the record as lennon's finest (and ringo's for that matter). we encourage you to post your 10 to 14 sequenced track listing here ... and let the argument begin.

let's have em. here's mine:

1 Dear Prudence
2 Ob La Di, Ob La Da
3 Happiness Is a Warm Gun
4 I'm So Tired
5 Piggies
6 I Will
7 Julia
8 Everybody's Got Something to Hide
9 Sexy Sadie
10 Long, Long, Long
11 Savoy Truffle
12 Cry Baby Cry

7 Lennon cuts
2 Macca cuts

not done sequencing, stuck with the actual listing minus deletions, but suddenly realized how badass leading off with prudence is.

never seen it

now everbody can. as far as i'm concerned, greatest band of the 80's (not their greatest song, but it's a good un)...

the who cares (update II)

(named for that long lost band who recorded "sell out", an ongoing online dialogue between jimmy eight cats and gihyb. geekr'y off the friggin charts)


Jimmy Eight cats wrote:

In response to Kiko Jones' heartfelt defense of "Who's Next", the problem isn't that those songs have been played to death like so many other "classic" rock bands, it's the nature of the songs themselves. With "Baba O'Riley" and "Won't Get Fooled Again", Townshend appoints himself the Voice of a Generation (note the use of "we" in WGFA), something the Beatles never did, and they had a pretty good claim to the title. Moreover, they're self-referential, but not in a Chuck Berry "Rock and Roll Music" kind of way.

Although I'll grant you that the White Album has a lot of bad songs, but it's not a great album. (ed. note: GIHYB and JEC disagree on this topic, though GIHYB is impressed with the fact that our mutual friend Jack owns one billion albums, including the complete Shaq discography, but not the white album)

As for the Who vs. the Dolls, the New York Dolls original two LPs are far superior to anything the Who released after "Sell Out", and more fun too. They're rock and roll records and much more meaningful than any of Townsend's self-pitying, self-important, self-indulgent wankings. Outside of a few singles (and by that I mean "The Seeker" and "5:15" -ed. note: xmastime loves "you better you bet" ... no prisoners today!!!!), almost any song on the first Dolls album is better than almost any Who song recorded after 1968. It's like Townsend threw away his Chuck Berry albums.

And the Who were better when Daltrey was a singer and not a vocalist. "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH"

Where's Screamin' Jay when you need him?

bangdittyditty ...

finally a sane thinker ...

from BBC News

.....Kid Rock said his record company Atlantic had asked him to "stand up for illegal downloading" a few years ago because it told him "people are stealing from us and stealing from you".

"And I go: 'Wait a second, you've been stealing from the artists for years. Now you want me to stand up for you?'

"I was telling kids - download it illegally, I don't care. I want you to hear my music so I can play live."

Asked whether he was worried about illegal downloading, he replied: "I don't agree with it. I think we should level the playing field. I don't mind people stealing my music, that's fine. But I think they should steal everything.

"You know how much money the oil companies have? If you need some gas, just go fill your tank off and drive off, they're not going to miss it."

the who cares (update)

(named for that long lost band who recorded "sell out", an ongoing online dialogue between jimmy eight cats and gihyb. geekr'y off the friggin charts)

gihyb wrote:

going back to your idea about artists you don't get, how about we start with an album i don't get? the who "who's next". to me, the who could have been the greatest rock band ever. "tommy" fucked it up. flashes of brilliance everwhere after (and during). townshend remains an amazing presence, and i loved his solo records (well, the 2 relevant ones in the early 80s and alot of quadrophenia), but the who ceased to exist to me once daltrey became (and it was pre ... whatever) robert plant.

jimmy eight cats wrote:

Robert Plant is a thousand times cooler than Daltrey, at least since Zep broke up.

I don't quite hate "Who's Next" as much as you and Jack do("Bargain" is one my favorite Who songs), but for my money it's not only the album that killed the Who, it's the album that launched classic rock, and therefore deserves infamy. Truth be told, for my money you can blame 90% of what went wrong with rock in the seventies on Townsend.

gihyb wrote:

the fact that alison krauss is killing wet dreams everywhere makes bob plant one cool MFer

bargain is a great song ... and i'm sure an argument could be made on some other planet that won't get fooled again has a certain resonance. on a side note, tell me something, what other "important classic" has as big a piece as shit song as my wife? that might be a topic. worst songs on great albums

jimmy eight cats wrote:

The problem with "Who's Next" is that's it's the moment where Pete Townsend starts writing about being a rock star, and worse about being in the Who. You can mostly divide the songs into two categories,the relationship songs-"Love Ain't For Keeping" and "Bargain" and the "I'm the guy who wrote that brilliant rock opera that changed the world and you should listen to me because I'm so much fucking smarter than the average rock star" songs. I think "Behind Blue Eyes" falls into that category. And Entwistle is Flavor Flav. Think about it.

gihyb wrote:

good point on the self-conciousness

i'd say entwistle is more like easy-e (ed. note- going to hell for that un).

monday afternoon, 3:30pm

the best show

in addition to being the most aptly named show on the airwaves, tom scharpling and his "fot's" have now done the unthinkable ... a real time musical collaboration with ted leo and the pharmacists resulting in (the unthinkable part) ... a REALLY cool song.

if you haven't gotten caught up in the best show (or wfmu in general), get on it.

it's new to me

Erykah Badu
New Amerykah Part One (4th World War)

with all due respect to others i've crowned too soon. album of the friggin year (ed. note: so far).

full disclosure. i don't know a damn thing about her. i guess she had a hit (hits)? just happened to read a review that sparked my interest. badassss. speakin about stuff most of her stature don't go near (think outkast w/ an agenda campin at late 60s/early 70s james brown's place AND payin rent!). trippy/funkadelic-y/stream of conscience/wacked out/great singin ... i.e., shit that moves (me). damn.

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